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| Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: RayLopez99
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 9:35:00 AM
Seriously, who codes in Linux and what platforms, IDEs, etc do they
use? What language?
I code in C#, have done Windows Forms, WPF, Silverlight, ADO.NET,
ASP.NET and some VB and Access dB programming, though I prefer
ADO.NET. Getting into WCF now (SOAP) web services using REST as
well. All of course under the award winning Visual Studio IDE. I'm
using VS 2008 but might upgrade to VS 2010.
Seriously, why would ANYBODY code in Linux? Why? You can port
Silverlight to Linux. I think in theory ASP.NET is platform neutral
as well.
And what language would you use in Linux? C? C++? Why? And for
server side, PHP? Why? Why would you do that? I am at a loss.
Why would anybody use an IDE that does not have the bells and whistles
of Visual Studio, like Intellisense? What's the point of not having a
decent IDE?
The only thing I can think of is if you want to code ONLY for Linux
users, not for the 99% that doesn't use Linux OS and the over 90% that
uses Windows OS. But again, you can port (I think) almost anything
done in Visual Studio to Linux.
Please educate me, I'm at a loss.
I would even argue perhaps that Linux coding is not serious coding,
but I'll leave that for another thread. Right now I'm just curious as
to why anybody would torture themselves to code in Linux, and how they
go about doing it. Do they even have libraries for Linux coding?
Stuff like a generic list, array, etc, or do you have to build your
own?
RL
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From: Jackie
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:02:00 AM
If you don't want to purchase Windows or a whole new computer from Apple
with Mac OS X, Linux would be a good choice.
| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: Mark Rae [MVP]
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:12:00 AM
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From: James Parker
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:27:00 AM
>
>Seriously, who codes in Linux and what platforms, IDEs, etc do they
>use? What language?
>
>I code in C#, have done Windows Forms, WPF, Silverlight, ADO.NET,
>ASP.NET and some VB and Access dB programming, though I prefer
>ADO.NET. Getting into WCF now (SOAP) web services using REST as
>well. All of course under the award winning Visual Studio IDE. I'm
>using VS 2008 but might upgrade to VS 2010.
>
>Seriously, why would ANYBODY code in Linux? Why? You can port
>Silverlight to Linux. I think in theory ASP.NET is platform neutral
>as well.
>
>And what language would you use in Linux? C? C++? Why? And for
>server side, PHP? Why? Why would you do that? I am at a loss.
>
>Why would anybody use an IDE that does not have the bells and whistles
>of Visual Studio, like Intellisense? What's the point of not having a
>decent IDE?
>
>The only thing I can think of is if you want to code ONLY for Linux
>users, not for the 99% that doesn't use Linux OS and the over 90% that
>uses Windows OS. But again, you can port (I think) almost anything
>done in Visual Studio to Linux.
>
>Please educate me, I'm at a loss.
>
>I would even argue perhaps that Linux coding is not serious coding,
>but I'll leave that for another thread. Right now I'm just curious as
>to why anybody would torture themselves to code in Linux, and how they
>go about doing it. Do they even have libraries for Linux coding?
>Stuff like a generic list, array, etc, or do you have to build your
>own?
>
>RL
>
I have played around with mono and mono develop that allows you to write C# and VB .net applications in Linux which is rather nice. Java and Eclipse IDE both work in Linux as well.
Many of the embedded systems that I have developed for in the past have versions of Linux on them. Most of the cool toys that you use will probably be like this too.
It would not surprise me at all if the Play Station 3 OS is a flavour of Linux. And of course Linux is free even Macs are a flavour of Unix.
Linux was a major part of my University course and is a great platform for learning on. Most of the worlds web servers are Unix/Linux using Apache, although Microsoft's IIS is becoming more popular.
j1mb0jay
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| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: Chris Ahlstrom
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:35:00 AM
Mark Rae [MVP] pulled this Usenet boner:
> "RayLopez99" < raylopez88@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1a284c33-9f55-466a-92b8-c9d6093e52e1@e2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
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>> But again, you can port (I think) almost anything done in Visual Studio to
>> Linux.
>
> How...?
If you stick with cross-platform libraries, avoid Win32 and .NET, use
standard C/C++, in practise it works pretty well.
You really have to be on guard against letting VS wizards generate your code,
though.
--
Q: How many WASPs does it take to change a light bulb?
A: One.
| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: The Big Ticket
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:55:00 AM
RayLopez99 wrote:
> Seriously, who codes in Linux and what platforms, IDEs, etc do they
> use? What language?
>
Who cares about what one would do on the Linux platform? Heck you got so
called programmers that actually program on the MS platform by day and
bash it by night lurking in COLA. They talk about MS and .NET in general
like the dogs that they are about. And yet none of them can get a job
collecting a paycheck programming on Linux.
| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: Jackie
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:55:00 AM
Also, if you ever want to develop commercial applications, you must
purchase Visual Studio. A hobbyist developer wanting to try to earn some
money with his creations may not want to pay €999+ for it before he's
even making any money.
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From: AZ Nomad
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:59:00 AM
On Thu, 13 May 2010 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 < raylopez88@gmail.com> wrote:
>Seriously, who codes in Linux and what platforms, IDEs, etc do they
>use? What language?
>I code in C#, have done Windows Forms, WPF, Silverlight, ADO.NET,
>ASP.NET and some VB and Access dB programming, though I prefer
>ADO.NET. Getting into WCF now (SOAP) web services using REST as
>well. All of course under the award winning Visual Studio IDE. I'm
>using VS 2008 but might upgrade to VS 2010.
>Seriously, why would ANYBODY code in Linux? Why? You can port
>Silverlight to Linux. I think in theory ASP.NET is platform neutral
>as well.
Anything you develop on a windows visual language is throwaway code. Use it and
toss it. Don't ever expect any of it to run anywhere else, even on a future
version of your current visual language.
| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: Jackie
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 10:59:00 AM
| Re: Seriously, who CODES in Linux? What IDE? Seriously. |
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From: The Big Ticket
Date Posted: 5/13/2010 11:05:00 AM
Jackie wrote:
> Also, if you ever want to develop commercial applications, you must
> purchase Visual Studio. A hobbyist developer wanting to try to earn some
> money with his creations may not want to pay €999+ for it before he's
> even making any money.
This is not correct.
< http://www.microsoft.com/express/support/support-faq.aspx>
<copied>
How much will these products cost?
Effective April 19th, 2006, all Visual Studio Express Editions are free
permanently. This pricing covers all Visual Studio 2005 Express Editions
and Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions including Visual Basic, Visual
C#, Visual C++, Visual J# (only available in Visual Studio 2005
Express), and Visual Web Developer as well as all localized versions of
Visual Studio Express.
Can I use Express Editions for commercial use?
Yes, there are no licensing restrictions for applications built using
Visual Studio Express Editions.
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